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YO, ADRIAN Ep. 11: Bourne in Flames

Damon then and now, and an interview with director Lizzie Borden.

Jul 22, 2016

This week on "Yo, Adrian"...It's Bourne bitches! (0.43) The new Jason Bourne is coming out and Kiva is excited. Fariha, not so much, but she's a supportive friend. Kiva also has an interview with Lizzie Borden (1.40), director of BORN IN FLAMES, which is screening as part of TIFF's Free Screen on July 26.

In round one, Kiva talks about how she got "deep into the Bourne life" (2.00), which has a lot to do with Paul Greengrass (and shoutout to Franka Potente). They talk about a Guardian piece that compares Jason Bourne to James Bond (5.50) and why the first JB works so well as an action hero. Kiva then asks Fariha about her feels on Matty D (7.00) and his transition from 1990s heartthrob to being Bourne. (PS Fariha loves ALL THE PRETTY HORSES (9.40) and Kiva cops to having owned BAND OF BROTHERS on Blu-ray (12.00).) As a last word on Matty D, Fariha suggests peeping him talk about Sarah Palin.

In round two (16.00), Lizzie Borden calls in from Los Angeles. In her own words, she recaps her seminal 1983 film, which transcends genre being not a doc, not pure fiction and blended with sci-fi (16.50). Lizzie talks about how feminism became a "dirty word" and how it's coming back again (23.00) but how it still carries "the baggage" of what it meant when it started in the 1970s (24.30). Meaning, of course, that we need intersectionality! Kiva asks Lizzie about Laura Mulvey's idea from "Feminism, Film and the Avant-Garde" that film form can challenge patriarchy, not just content (28.00), which leads Lizzie to talk about how she recently showed REGROUPING to the famous cultural critic! (She says Mulvey is the most modest, too.) The pair talk about Black Lives Matter Toronto, namely the group's recent important demonstration at Pride, and why some groups are labeled as "difficult." (35.00)

Kiva asks Lizzie about the first time she showed BORN IN FLAMES in Toronto in 1984 (44.00) and how it was nearly banned, leading to a mutual love-in for David Cronenberg's films (a.k.a. another favourite target of the Ontario censor board).

Kiva then confesses that two TV shows that Lizzie worked on, RED SHOE DIARIES and THE SECRET WORLD OF ALEX MACK, meant the world to her (47.00). (Lizzie says that Kiva kind of looks like Alex Mack/could be famous in Japan, nbd, 47.30). Lizzie talks about how working on RED SHOE DIARIES was great because "full nudity was fine" but she had no interest in shooting BAYWATCH and "dollying in on a woman's butt" (49.00).

Lizzie offers some reflective thoughts on her less-than-conventional career (53.00) and how amazing TV is now, especially TRANSPARENT, ORANGE IN THE NEW BLACK and ORPHAN BLACK).